Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205
04/27/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES
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SB 230-TRAPPING CABINS: FEE FOR CONSTRUCTION 4:04:50 PM CHAIR REVAK reconvened the meeting and announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 230 "An Act establishing a $25 fee to construct or use a trapping cabin on state land; and exempting trapping cabin permittees from additional land use fees." CHAIR REVAK solicited a motion to adopt a committee substitute as a working document. 4:05:23 PM VICE CHAIR MICCICHE moved to adopt the committee substitute (CS) for SB 230, work order 32-LS1624\B, as the working document. 4:05:41 PM CHAIR REVAK objected for discussion purposes. 4:05:45 PM INTIMAYO HARBISON, Staff, Senator Josh Revak, Alaska State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, paraphrased the explanation of Changes from version A to version B on behalf of the committee: [Original punctuation provided.] SB 230 Explanation of Changes Version \A to Version \B Page 1, Lines 1-2 Reflects a title change, to more broadly include trapping cabins on state land, as well as the fees associated with them. Sec 1., Page 1, Line 14 Removes language referencing, AS 38.95.075(b), 38.95.080(f), and replaces with 38.95.080(g). Sec 2., Page 2, Line 8 Repealed and re-enacted to allow for the construction and use of trapping cabins on state land. Sec 3., Page 2, Line 17 Repealed and re-enacted to clarify who qualifies for a permit, and when the Commissioner shall issue a permit. Sec 4., Page 2, Line 27 Is amended to specify that the director shall establish conditions in which a permit shall be issued and further establishes restrictions on those conditions established by the director. Sec 5., Page 3, Line 25 Is amended to clarify that the state is not disposing of land that has been permitted and that a permit does not establish preference rights for lease or purchase. Sec 6., Page 4, Line 4 Adds a new subsection establishing that the director may issue multiple permits for the use of a trapping cabin if current permit holders agree. Further clarifies that the department may not charge additional fees for use or construction of a trapping cabin under this section. Sec 7., Page 4 Line 10 Amended to clarify definitions. Sec 8., Page 4, Line 17 Repeals AS 38.95.075 4:08:38 PM SENATOR KIEHL referred to AS 38.95.080(a), which is repealed and reenacted in Version B. He expressed concern that it does away with the requirement that the person have an established trapline that they use regularly. He acknowledged that the language may have been relocated within the bill. MR. HARBISON offered his belief that it was still within bill. He directed attention to Sec. 3. AS 38.95.080(b)(3)(A), which read: (3) provides proof acceptable to the commissioner that the person (A) has an established trapline of sufficient length to justify the need for cabin construction or use; and 4:09:53 PM CHRISTY COLLES, Chief of Operations, Division of Mining, Land, and Water, Department of Natural Resources, Anchorage, Alaska, stated that the requirement to provide proof that a trapline is of sufficient length to justify the need for a cabin is in regulation. She noted that the division works with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) on the parameters. She said the language cited provides the authority for the division to acquire the information needed. SENATOR KIEHL asked if this is drafted such that an application must meet subparagraphs (A) and (B) to be permitted. MS. COLLES replied yes, both would be needed. 4:11:14 PM SENATOR KIEHL referred to Sec. 8. AS 38.95.075, which is repealed. He asked whether that referred to the old trapping cabins, pre-1984 to 1986. He recalled that only a few of those cabins remained. He wondered what would happen to those cabins by repealing that provision. MS. COLLES answered that when a statute is repealed, the department would continue the authorization until the statute expires. Once it is expired, the department would authorize it under AS 38.95.080. AS 38.95.075 is the oldest statute and it is difficult to administer because there are cabins on state land are not owned by anyone, or the owners would like someone else to use them. The department doesn't have a way to authorize the existing cabin because the parameters in AS 38.95.075 are so restrictive. The department believes that repealing the old statute will give the department flexibility to authorize the existing cabins under AS 38.95.080. 4:12:56 PM SENATOR KIEHL asked whether the cabins authorized under AS 38.95.080 would be subject to size limits. MS. COLLES answered yes, they would be subject to size requirements, but most of these cabins are not above the allowed square footage. She said she had not seen this issue arise thus far. 4:13:51 PM SENATOR KIEHL commented that he hoped that the pre-1984 cabins would be sufficiently grandfathered. CHAIR REVAK answered that is certainly the committee's intent. MS. COLLES said it also reflects the department's intent. DNR has no desire to take away people's trapping cabins. She said she was unaware of any cabins that do not meet the size requirements. 4:15:06 PM At ease 4:16:01 PM CHAIR REVAK reconvened the meeting, stating that the Senate Resources Standing Committee has clarified that the intention is to grandfather in those cabins. He said he would work on that issue with the Senate Finance Committee, the next committee of referral. CHAIR REVAK removed his objection; he found no further objection, and the committee substitute (CS) for SB 230, Version B, was adopted as the working document. 4:17:08 PM SENATOR MICCICHE moved to report the committee substitute (CS) for SB 230, work order 32-LS1624\B, from committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s). CHAIR REVAK found no objection, and CSSB 230(RES) was reported from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.
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SB 230 Department Response to Committee, Chart of DMLW Cabin Programs.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 230 |
SB 230 Explanation of Changes Version A to Version B.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 230 |
SB 230 Department Response to Committee, Examples of Permitted Trapping Cabins.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 230 |
SB 230 B.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 230 |
SB 227 Explanation of Changes Version B to Version I.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 227 |
SB 227 I.pdf |
SRES 4/27/2022 3:30:00 PM |
SB 227 |